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Thursday, November 08, 2007

Review for Managing Your Finances (Purpose Driven) by Crowne Financial

Just so you get my bias: I follow under the banner of being reformed in theology but progressive in methodology. So in the camp of Mark Driscoll and Tim Keller. I'm in agreement with Gospel Centered preaching rather than Christ Centered preaching (the difference between grace & moralism).

I'm going through this program right now, and I must say I feel like shooting myself, or screaming very loud.

SUMMARY
This program is about 6 modules and goes through different sections on how to view money God's way. It's intended to be done in small groups. There's a lot of basic, practical advice, and like the "Purpose Driven" model, is peppered with one-liner Bible verses to support point by point structured lessons that are taught via a 15-20 minute DVD segment. So for example, they might have 3 points as to how you should save money, and have one-liner Bible verses supporting each point.

In each module, they have you take home and do "homework," which typically means that you need to meticulously keep track of every expenditure, categorize it, make a budget, do an asset inventory, debt-repayment plan, etc.

STRENGTHS
- It's a very good overview of how God views money and how Christians should view money.
- It brings the question of finances into the churches view in a very accessible way!
- Very good practicality (they provide Excel worksheets that'll do a lot of the "budgeting" for you)

WEAKNESSES
- Too simplistic. Nothing in this packet isn't something that you can easily find by googling in five minutes. I'm talking about the financial advice they give. The theological issues are items that someone somewhat knowledgeable about scripture can pull on their own (ie. All your money actually belongs to God!) This material could easily (and more effectively) be prepared in-house (well, I guess if I could've taught it myself, it can't be THAT hard? But that's an assumption based on the fact that all my "knowledge" has been gleaned from free material off the web, both practical financial advice and theological worldviews toward money)


- Teaches bad Bible study techniques. This program is littered with one-sentence or even partial sentence Bible verses. There's a "matter of fact" simplicity they use these Bible verses to support various points they make. For one thing, these verses are taken out of context and are often applied in a different manner than what the original author intended. There's no explanation of the context of the passages and how they were able to apply the verse to the situation. It's just a "here's the Bible Verse," and here's my point. The end. No further explanation. . . WHAT? Are you kidding me?

If you want to take a verse and apply it differently than what the original author's intent was, I think there should be at least some effort to at least mention that and explain the process in which you get to the "application."

They'll sometimes list about five verses, and one verse will be from Proverbs (very practical and explicitly referencing money) and another verse from Romans (that's more about "spiritual matters" and somewhat unrelated to money unless you make a bunch of connections). Of course, I may know that they're pulling "application" and some of the verses are out of context, and I may have better Bible Study skills and acumen, but what does their whole Bible study methodology teach?

Basically, the end truths they may get to are sound enough, but the means they get to it is very sloppy and simplistic. The ends do not justify the means, and by teaching a bad means towards a final interpretation of scripture, I feel does more harm than good.

I think it would be much better for them to just take one verse or passage, and dive deeper into how they pull out the applications. Less quantity, and more quality in their Bible support would practically serve better. This way you can teach solid Biblical scholarship, while teaching about money at the same time. Rather than teach horrible Bible scholarship but teach about money. At least if you teach good Bible scholarship, the individual will be better equipped to investigate further questions they have on their own.

I think in their quest to make the program more accessible to a wider audience, they looked sort of short sighted trying to spoon feed the points to the audiences, rather than looking longer term, to teach people how to study. More of the concept of teaching a man to fish rather than just giving them fish all the time. But in this case, by giving the fish so easily, this program essentially teaches a very BAD way to fish, and will actually hurt people should they try and do a Bible study with the same methodology.

So if I were to do this program, I would have to caveat the sloppy scholarship the program does, despite its truthful points. And then at the end, I would have to run another class to show how the whole program used the various verses to connect their "applications." But then at that point, I would point out that some of their application of verses was way off and show how. And so on and so on, undoing the harm the program did. I might as well not do it and develop one or two quality lessons with some practical financial management tools.


- Doesn't deal with the heart issues. Okay. . . is it because people just don't KNOW that money is really God's that they're not being generous about it? Is it because people just don't KNOW that they shouldn't be in debt because it puts them in bondage that they shouldn't go into unnecessary debt? Is it because people just don't KNOW that spending more than you make is being a dumb ass so that's why they do it? The SNL skit shows this fairly clearly at http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt0c6_snldontbuystuff_fun

My point is that people know in their heads they should be more generous, or OUGHT to do things. People recognize their own sin and selfishness. But rather than seeing money as an issue of having idols, they see money as a MORALISTIC obligation (ie. I ought to give more money, I should save more, I shouldn't be in debt, etc.) . . .

The question more to be asked is why do we buy more than we earn or are not more generous? Why go into debt based on an instant gratification and hedonistic compulsion? And of course this question will be answered in different ways. But the bottom line is that the ultimate person who should be our greatest satisfaction (John Piper theology inserted here), Jesus Christ, is not our ultimate pleasure. Instead, we feel that some material possession or "functional savior" (Tim Keller theology inserted here), rather than our true savior, Jesus Christ, will save us.

Everyone has their own personal "hell" that they don't want to experience here on Earth, so they try to find some kind of "functional savior" to bring them out of their hell, rather than Jesus Christ. So hell for one person can be where their peers aren't respecting him/her, so that person may go into debt to maintain the image of being important. In that case, the money becomes the functional savior to the individual to buy those things that make him/her look important. What the individual should be doing is looking at their personal hell and asking Jesus to save them from their fear of no one respecting them. So in essence, allowing Jesus to weed out the root issue in the individual's heart.

Okay, so all that to say that the series I'm going through only shows the moralistic and practical methods of temporarily fixing the problem without actually digging deep to root out the true causes for the self-destructive behaviors people have with money and debt.

People may change their habits with money for about a month in response to the study, but long lasting change will only occur once the individuals have been fully redeemed and released from the "functional saviors" they rely on day-in-day-out by the true savior.


In the end. . . a lot of my observations/critiques can be applicable to just about most church programs/sermons, and I'm probably just more annoyed with the state of American churches as a whole.


Thursday, October 18, 2007

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Saturday, September 15, 2007

Know any dependable web programmers out there?

www.comfortinnmaingate.com is the site that needs to be maintained/overhauled.

Know anyone dependable that's willing to do it?  (for pay of course)


Tuesday, July 31, 2007

It is now two days and a half since we flew in from Germany (my wife and I) to begin our new life here in Los Angeles (Buena Park, Orange County).  Today I officially have signed out at the Los Angeles AFB to let them know I arrived safely and began to take my final vacation days until I'm technically out of the Air Force.

There's much more I'd like to write about, but I'll do that in the future once the craziness settles down.  I'm still dealing with some jet lag, and have gone on Internet researching/purchasing splurges building my dream Home Theatre system I've been neglecting while being stationed in Germany. . . I'll tell you how I got $600 off a Samsung 4665F LCD TV from Best Buy.


Monday, July 09, 2007

My Past Two Years and the Spiritual Darkness of the Military Base

CORRECTION: I didn't have a car for only two months rather than years.


It’ll be two years since I joined the Air Force in July 29th.  What’s the overall assessment?  Suffering. . . but good (but no I would not do it all over again if I knew better. . .) Here’s a rundown of what I’ve experienced in the past two years according to category (you can get a more detailed description of the specific experiences by going through the history of the items that have an * next to them ):

 

Financial

1)  Invested in my first Roth IRA

2)  Moved into my first apartment in Germany *

3)  Became financially independent from my parents for the first time

4)  Bought my first, brand new car *

 

Church Community

1)  Quit two ministries after active involvement due to differences in vision with leadership *

2)  Got fired from one ministry due to my views of one of the ministries I quit above *

3)  Listened to every single Acts29Network and The Resurgence podcast/vodcast along with most of Mark Driscoll’s sermons along with much of Erwin McManus’ *

 

Personal

1)  Proposed on the Eiffel tower *

2)  Got married in glorious Spokane, WA *

3)  Traveled enough to know I don’t like it and got my first pick pocket experience

4)  Had no car for two years and biked everywhere *

5)  Learned a improved keyboard layout – Dvorak!!! *

6)  JeffersonKim.com helps a long lost cousin reestablish contact *

 

Military

1)  9 months of working weird, 12 hour shifts, sometimes entire weekends (72 hours) all by myself without interacting with a single person

2)  Volunteered to quit two years earlier than my four year commitment

3)  Sheltered during Hurricane Katrina for 7 days *

4)  Got my website censored from the networks

 

 

So we all learn the best through conflict and suffering.  It’s fairly clear from my past posts that I learned quite a bit through the Church community and the military work environment.  Now the question becomes on solutions.  After much deliberation, I’ve concluded that there is no hope for the church community here.  If I were to describe hell, I would probably describe this area.

 

As for military. . . there is hope, but that’s an arena that I don’t want to claim even enough experience or insight to be so bold as to publicize a possible solution.  Basically, I have my opinions, but there are much smarter people in much more authoritative positions to be able to fix the problem.  And I would say now that they’re actually laying off Air Force personnel, they are at least making the attempt to fix the problem, which is more than I can say about myself.

 

So going back to the church community around here. . . there’s no hope.  And here’s why.

 

First, to discern what a healthy Christian community will look like it should have multiple aspects, and here are some.

 

1) Teach from the Bible exegetically, which means that they’re trying to understand the original intention of the authors and extrapolate to our context

 

2) Teach the Bible as though it’s a book essentially about Christ and not as a book on how man should live his life

 

3) A community that loves one another

 

4) A community that loves the local military community with the hope that they will come to know Christ

 

5) Reach their community as though they were missionaries in a foreign country

 

All items above need to be spearheaded by strong leadership.  So until there is strong leadership, there can be no hope.  Had I known there wasn’t strong leadership out here, I might’ve tried starting my own ministry out here. . . but seriously, would I do it knowing I would only be out here for two years?  Probably not. . . so that relates to some factors that bring together hopelessness to have strong leadership:

 

1) People tend to live here and move within a three year period because the Air Force moves them.  We’re talking an entire leadership, and congregational turnover within three years!!!  That’s CRAZY enough to destroy a ministry and make any leader want to quit, but add more. . .

 

2) Military personnel have to deploy for 4 months or more and travel back to the states for weeks at a time.  So not only can the people only stay for about three years, but then they deploy for months at a time!  Not only that, but when holidays come around, they will most likely return back to the States for vacation or travel.

 

3) The American community is isolated with about 60,000 people.  We’re talking a small town completely isolated from the rest of the world!  No large city nearby (not even a German city) that people commute from. . . this is it!  In other words, if you’re a talented leader, you’ll probably focus your energies on a large city stateside, rather than some small military community.  For you Seattlites. . . imagine Everett completely isolated and see what strong church communities come from that. . .

 

4) Travelling. . . We’re here in Germany. . . what do you think most people are going to try and do on the weekends?  That’s right.  Travel!  We’re only a four-hour drive from Paris!

 

It comes down to this.  You need time to create meaningful community and strong leadership.  Military personnel in the military predominantly cannot or choose not to commit to a meaningful community due to their unique position and transient lifestyle.  Strong leaders will come to recognize that they can simply impact much more people by going stateside where they can disciple people for a longer period of time.

 

That’s just one of the prices military personnel face.  Transient living. 

 

The lack of Christ centered, biblical, and missionally focused community has been hell for me.  Like, if I were to be in hell, he could just stick me here.  Well. . . I guess if I knew I was here for three more years, I’d make something of it, but by the time I got kicked out/quit all the ministries and discovered that the leadership out here didn’t hold the same ecclesiology as me, it was too late to create something substantial of my own.

 

Well, hopefully the suffering I went through will teach me to be a lot more careful and discerning in the future before committing to a ministry or church community.



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